Thursday 11 May 2017

Execution of Yeshu ha Notzri on the Eve of Passover - Talmud, Sanhedrin 43a

The story of the Crucifixion, the Execution of Jesus is not limited to the Christian New Testament Gospel stories found in Matthew, Mark, Luke and John.

Some people believe that this story was invented many years after the 1st century, however, there are many sources outside of the Bible that describe the life and death of Jesus Christ who in the Jewish Tradition is called Yeshu ha Notzri which means "Jesus the Nazarene"

Notzri or Netzer means "Branch" ... and signifies that Jesus was from the Branch of David, the stem of Jesse. Nazarene does not mean that he was from Nazareth, it means that he was from the Royal line (Branch) of King David

He was in fact a Jewish Prince. (nasi) נְשִׂיא



Talmud Sanhedrin 43a

" It is taught: On the eve of Passover they hung Yeshu and the crier went forth for forty days beforehand declaring that "Yeshu is going to be stoned for practicing witchcraft, for enticing and leading Israel astray. Anyone who knows something to clear him should come forth and exonerate him." But no one had anything exonerating for him and they hung him on the eve of Passover. Ulla said: Would one think that we should look for exonerating evidence for him? He was an enticer and G-d said (Deuteronomy 13:9) "Show him no pity or compassion, and do not shield him." Yeshu was different because he was close to the government. [Royal Family] "

Yeshu ha Notzri : The references to Notzrim in the Babylonian Talmud are related to the meaning and person of Yeshu Ha Notzri ("Jesus the Nazarene") in the Talmud and Tosefta. This includes passages in the Babylonian Talmud such as Sanhedrin 107b which states "Jesus the Nazarene practiced magic and led Israel astray" The Jerusalem Talmud contains other coded references to Jesus such as "Jesus ben Pantera," (Pandera means Betrayer*) while the references using the term notzri are restricted to the Babylon Talmud.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazarene_%28title%29

Notzri" (נוצרי) from the Hebrew NTzR = Branch Ne·tzer

ne·tser (נֵ֫צֶר, n-ts-r), pronounced nay'·tser, meaning "branch", "flower", or "offshoot". Derived from na·tsar.  Jerome (c. 347 – 420) linked "Nazarene" to a verse in the Book of Isaiah, claiming that "Nazarene" was the Hebrew reading of a word scholars read as ne·tzer (branch).The text from Isaiah is: There shall come forth a Rod from the stem of Jesse, And a Branch shall grow out of his roots.

ve·ya·tza cho·ter mig·ge·za yi·shai ve·ne·tzer mi·sha·ra·shav yif·reh.

In ancient Hebrew texts, vowels were not indicated, so a wider variety of readings was possible in Jerome's time. Here branch/Nazarene is metaphorically "descendant" (of Jesse, father of King David). Eusebius, a 4th-century Christian polemicist, also argued that Isaiah was the source of "Nazarene." This prophecy by Isaiah was extremely popular in New Testament times and is also referred to in Romans and Revelation

Nasi (prince) - נְשִׂיא The noun nasi occurs 132 times in the Masoretic Text of the Hebrew Bible, and in English is usually translated "prince," occasionally "captain." The first use is for the twelve "princes" who will descend from Ishmael, in Genesis 17, and the second use, in Genesis 23, is the Hethites recognising Abraham as "a godly prince" (nasi elohim נְשִׂיא אֱלֹהִים ). In the book of Leviticus, in the rites of sacrifices for leaders who err, there is the special offering made by a "nasi".

The Talmudic book of Horayot actually defines this to mean the king.

Jesus in the Talmud : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_the_Talmud

*Pandera : Robert Eisler considered the name to be derived from Pandaros. He also argued that it may not have been a real name but instead as a generic name for a betrayer. He notes that in the Iliad, Pandaros betrays the Greeks and breaks a truce confirmed by solemn oath. He argues that the name came to be used as a generic term for a betrayer and was borrowed by Hebrew. The name is indeed found in Genesis Rabba 50 in the expression qol Pandar (literally "voice of Pandaros" denoting false promises of a betrayer) used as a derogatory placeholder name for a judge of Sodom. The -a at the end of the form Pandera can be understood to be the Aramaic definite article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshu#Ben_Pandera_and_ben_Stada

Note  : the photo above is a technology process of the actual photo of the Holy Shroud of Turin (The burial cloth of Jesus). The shroud, which story is by the way fascinating and interesting, bears the imprint of the body of a man showing evident signs of death by crucifixion and is been scientifically dated to 2000 years. Extensive information can be found at https://www.shroud.com/   (Thanks to Paulo Paul on Google+)


Note: The Talmud Sanhedrin 43a, states that Yeshu ha Notzri was both stoned and hung from a Tree. Do the Gospel accounts or any other non-Biblical accounts indicate in any way that jesus was Stoned and then hung on a Tree?


Acts 5:30: "The God of our fathers raised up Jesus whom you murdered by hanging on a tree [xulon]."

Also, in Acts 10:39: "And we are witnesses of all things which he [the Messiah] did both in the land of the Jews and in Jerusalem, whom they killed by hanging on a tree [xulon]."

This is repeated in Acts 13:29, Galatians 3:13, and in 1 Peter 2:24. When we look at Revelation 2:7 we can clearly see that the Greek word xulon means a LIVING TREE -- not a Roman cross! Notice!

"He who has an ear, let him hear what the spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes I will give to EAT from the the tree [xulon] of life, which is in the midst of the Paradise of God."

Was he stoned .... Historian Nancy L. Kuehl  writes:

"The only manner in which a man's bones might view him is if they were no longer enclosed in flesh...there is a very important discrepancy in wording here that has failed to receive close scrutiny. The word 'PIERCED' [in Psalm 22:16-18] does NOT mean 'to pierce through.' The Hebrew word here is 'aryeh and is derived from the root 'arah. Those words literally mean 'to pluck away skin' as a young lion might maul and tear the flesh of a carcass, exposing the whitened bones. Anyone who has ever been slapped by a cat knows that the skin is not pierced through but literally pulled away. A stone, especially if sharp, would have the same effect as a lion's claw. William Wilson gives the following exact usage of the word: 'arah, 'like a lion.'

"Again, crucifixion could NOT 'pluck' into the flesh and tear it away. Had the prophecy been meant to imply a puncturing of nail marks, the word daqar (as used in Zech. 12:10), 'to stab or thrust through,' would have been used instead. The word for 'feet' [in Psalm 22:16-18] is pudenda and indicates the generative parts of a man's body, but might well refer to the abdominal cavity in general. Certainly, anyone who was stoned would receive wounds all over the body...

"But it is the portion of the Psalm [22:16-18] that gives us the best evidence of stoning. Looking down upon his own body from the tree, the individual speaking in the Psalm SEES HIS BONES, and THEY BEHOLD HIM! The phrase would indicate that there is no flesh on his bones, that the skin had been removed from them. The wording is used to indicate that the bones are bared and stare back at him. The fact is the scourging by either party (either the Sanhedrin or the Romans) would have been injurious TO HIS BACK, not the front, where he might look down and view his own bones. He would NOT have been able to see his back while hanging on the tree. Crucifixion, in no way, would cause bones to be so exposed as to be viewed by the victim himself" (A Book of Evidence: The Trials and Execution of Jesus, p. 195).



 WE HAVE A LAW, AND ACCORDING TO THAT LAW HE MUST DlE, because he claimed to be the Son of God'" (John 19:7).




What was this LAW ? Leviticus 24:16 reveals the answer: "And he that BLASPHEMES the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly STONE HIM: as well as the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemes the name of the LORD, shall be put to death." The Acts of Pilate (a 4th-century apocryphal work) contains verses PARALLELING John 19:7 that irrefutably prove the Jews were indeed referring to the law in Deuteronomy 24:16. In these verses Pilate could not see any blasphemy in the utterance of Yeshua:

"If this word is blasphemy, take him, bring him into your synagogue, and JUDGE HIM ACCORDING TO YOUR LAW. The Jews answered Pilate: It is contained in our law, that if a man sins against a man, he must receive forty strokes save one, BUT HE WHO BLASPHEMES AGAINST GOD MUST BE STONED. Pilate said to them: Take him yourselves and punish him as you wish" (IV, 3-4).


6 comments:

  1. Yeshu or (Yeshua) ben Pandera means: Yeshu son (ben) of Pandera. So, Pandera could be also a person. Some Jewish traditions suggest that Pandera could've been a Roman soldier.

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  2. No, it is pretty much a fact that "Pandera" is from the greek Panderos to mean Betrayer. Pandora is not a Roman Soldier.

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  3. Do we have any reliable tracer on the dating of these snippets from the Talmud?

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    1. http://jewishchristianlit.com/Topics/JewishJesus/

      Jesus lived in the time of King Alexander Tannai and Queen Salome. 100 -67 BCE

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  4. Jesus wea born in 100 BCE died 67 BCE. See Talmud.
    The Talmud snippets relate to Queen Salome in 76-67 BCE.
    see http://jewishchristianlit.com/Topics/JewishJesus/

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  5. Jesús ben Pandira era el que los esenios llamaban "maestro de justicia", anterior al Jesús de Nazaret en unos 100 años. Fue apedreado y colgado de un madero.

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